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MBONE Deployment                                               P. Savola
Internet-Draft                                                 CSC/FUNET
Expires: September 23, 2005                               March 22, 2005

         Lightweight Multicast Address Discovery Problem Space
               draft-ietf-mboned-addrdisc-problems-00.txt

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Abstract

   Typically applications developers have requested static IANA
   assignments for the applications, even if the applications would
   typically be only used within a site, between consenting sites, or
   would not eventually even use multicast at all.  This memo describes
   this problem space, and summarizes a number of proposed approaches to
   mitigating these problems.


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Table of Contents

   1.  Introduction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  3
   2.  Problem Statement  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  4
   3.  Mitigation Techniques  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  5
     3.1   Locally Scoped Address Assignment by IANA  . . . . . . . .  5
     3.2   Single Administration Address Discovery with Server
           Configuration  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  6
     3.3   Zero-configuration Single Administration Address
           Discovery  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  6
     3.4   Global Multiple Administration Address Discovery . . . . .  7
   4.  Acknowledgements . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  8
   5.  IANA Considerations  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  8
   6.  Security Considerations  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  8
   7.  References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  8
     7.1   Normative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  8
     7.2   Informative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  8
       Author's Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  9
       Intellectual Property and Copyright Statements . . . . . . . . 10
















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1.  Introduction

   There are a lot of different challenges relating to the discovery and
   use of an appropriate multicast address, see below.  This document
   only addresses the second one.

   a.  Getting a list of all the available (public) sessions which one
       could join (and possibly send) to, similar to a "TV guide".  That
       is, having to know everything before you can decide if you're
       interested in something or not; this is out of scope for this
       memo.

   b.  Discovering the multicast address used by a particular
       application for particular purpose, within or crossing a scope.
       I.e., you know what you're looking for, but don't know if the
       session has been created already and what its address would be.

   c.  The different sources (unicast addresses) participating in a
       session.  For ASM, there is no need for such discovery.  For SSM,
       this is expected to happen out-of-band or following separate
       requirements [I-D.lehtonen-mboned-dynssm-req].

   Many applications have been written which leverage or could leverage
   multicast routing infrastructures, in one or more of the following
   scopes: (We'll get back to these later.)

   1.  link-local scope,

   2.  [geographical] site scope,

   3.  organization-local scope,

   4.  global scope, used between consenting sites/enterprises, also
       including cases like "inside a country", or

   5.  a truly global scope.

   Multicast-leveraging applications are often designed such that each
   multicast group has a "server", "session creator" or some other
   node(s) (or persons operating the nodes) which are in some way in
   control of the application.

   Both the "server" and "client end" of an application are currently
   typically provisioned with the group address using static IANA
   assignment [I-D.ietf-mboned-addrarch].  Only rarely these apps are
   manually configured e.g.  with locally scoped addresses, especially
   the ones with a large number of clients.


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   It would be highly desirable that the applications could easily use
   more dynamic, and more scoping-friedly mechanisms for discovering the
   appropriate addresses to use.

   All of these issues are only relevant to Any Source Multicast (ASM),
   as SSM requires this information is known a priori.

2.  Problem Statement

   The current IANA static assignment for these applications is a
   problem for multiple reasons:

   o  This messes up the multicast scoping plans which the site may
      have.  Each application's global address must be individually
      scoped and filtered in all the routers and in their access lists.
      Scoping should be easier.

   o  Static IANA assignments are required for each application; a
      permanant global assignment for each application which could use
      multicast depletes the resource quickly.

   o  This has issues with IPv6, because such IPv6 addresses can not be
      scalably routed in inter-domain routing; in intra-domain, this
      requires manual configuration or running BSR (for ff01::/16 or
      ff02::/16 or the like)

   o  "Intended for local only use" applications typically leak through
      to the IPv4 MSDP because there is no clear logic which ones should
      be global and which ones are local.

   There are at least four different proposed ways to mitigate this,
   from the least to most extensive:

   a.  Smaller-than-global single-administration address assignment by
       IANA (from 239/8 or elsewhere).

   b.  Smaller-than-global single-administration discovery, with the
       expectation that a locally scoped address is manually configured
       on the "server end".

   c.  Smaller-than-global single-administration discovery with complete
       zero-configuration.

   d.  Global (but restricted) multi-administration discovery with some
       amount of manual configuration.

   We'll outline each proposed mitigation technique briefly below.


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   NOTE: David Meyer's experience from being the designated expert for
   IANA assignments is that almost all of the requested multicast
   addresses have been such that the requestors would not have been
   satisfied if their application would only be restricted to operate
   within a site.

   If people agree on this, the first three mitigation techniques won't
   have significant impact, because the application developers won't
   implement the discovery in any case.  They will _still_ want to get
   the globally scoped addresses from IANA, instead of implementing the
   "service discovery inside an organization" -shim.

3.  Mitigation Techniques

   The generic goals from the application/deployment perspective are:

   o  Not depending on any uncommon external infrastructure besides the
      application itself (e.g., a MADCAP [RFC2730] server), so that the
      application can be deployed where MADCAP server is not present.
      I.e., this should be sufficiently lightweight to be coded in the
      application or be used by a simple application shim library.

   o  The application should "just work" from perspective of "client
      end" without any configuration.  "Server end" may or may not
      require configuration of an address.

   o  The presence of applications should be easily filterable at least
      at the edges of the network.

   o  Preferably it should also be easy to segment the use of
      application into the smallest possible scopes within the network,
      to avoid undue state and confusion in the network.

3.1  Locally Scoped Address Assignment by IANA

   If we ignore the first problem about local scoping, the easiest
   mitigation technique might be having IANA assign locally scoped
   addresses on FCFS basis (like UDP/TCP port numbers).  This could be
   done inside or outside of 239/8.

   This way the local applications could easily get a local assignment
   which could be easily filtered by site administrators at site
   borders.

   This is slightly inflexible as the application developers could only
   tell whether the application's scope is link-local (there are very
   few of these), global, or something in between.  "Expanding ring


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   search" inside the site-local scopes would not be possible.

   NOTE, based on DaveM's experience, it is not clear why the
   application designers would accept a local range instead of a global
   assignment, even if the application would primarily be used within a
   local scope.

3.2  Single Administration Address Discovery with Server Configuration

   The second mitigation technique would be to specify and implement a
   mechanism, requiring no infrastructure in the network, where the
   "server end" would be manually configured with appropriately selected
   locally-scoped addresses which the clients would use to discover the
   group address.

   The client ends should discover the smallest possible scope where the
   application is supported.

   A few notes on this method:

   o  One could characterize a potential solution as an easily
      implementable server shim at "server end" listening to a set
      well-known locally-scoped multicast addresses, which would respond
      to queries by "client end".

   o  How can the servers demultiplex "queries" sent to these addresses?
      Are these messages in SAP format or something simpler?  The query
      must have an identifier (e.g., done by hashing a name?) which the
      server uses to know the client is interested in the server's
      multicast transmission.

   o  How should the servers communicate back to the clients?  By
      replying with unicast (issues after bootup with lots of nodes) or
      do the clients also join the address (DoS potential, a very
      crowded group which all the servers at least need to subscribe
      to)?

   Again, this does not solve the root problem; why would an application
   designer implement this mechanism when he/she wants to support global
   scoping as well?  IANA assignment will be requested in any case.

3.3  Zero-configuration Single Administration Address Discovery

   A slightly more extensive problem is the same as above, but assuming
   that the application must be completely zero-configurable.  That is,
   it must work without having to manually configure anything on the
   server end.


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   This could be achieved e.g., by adding to the above a SAP-like
   address segments from which the addresses could be dynamically
   reserved.  This might not sit well on the organization's local
   scoping plans, however.

   However, it is worth considering whether this is really needed.  For
   link-local scope, this may be desirable as such requires no set-up of
   multicast routing.  But for larger scopes, is this really useful?  If
   there is no administrator to configure the address, likely there is
   no multicast infrastructure in the first place, or desire to run the
   application in multicast mode!

   Again, this does not solve the root problem.

3.4  Global Multiple Administration Address Discovery

   Most applications are such that they _can_ be run over
   site/organization boundaries (even if they typically would not be),
   so the application developers will want to support the most extensive
   scope.  There is no common local scope (even between
   organization-local and global) which could cover these disjoint
   global interconnections, so the applications must use global scope
   addresses.

   To get away from static IANA assignments, there should be a
   lightweight multicast address discovery function which could be used
   e.g., in the embedded devices to discover the appropriate multicast
   address they should use.

   Obviously, the result could also be that the application should be
   restricted to a local scope, and use local scope addresses, but wider
   discovery should also be supported.

   This approach has a number of challenges, however.  It's difficult to
   visualize how multiple administrative domains could perform discovery
   in a desired manner automatically -- we have to assume that the sites
   might not want to tell about all of their local sessions to all the
   other sites (i.e., you may want to allow site A to discover session
   1, and site B to discover session 2, but not mix these).  In other
   words, there will likely need to be some manual control of what gets
   seen to the outside and what not.  This makes the mechanism more
   complicated, and requires more network operator management.

   Further attributes and requirements for this kind of approach remain
   to be figured out.



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4.  Acknowledgements

   This memo grew out of the discussions in MBONED WG, where the
   participants were, among others, Beau Williamson, Albert Manfredi,
   Marshall Eubanks, John Kristoff, David Meyer, Stig Venaas, Rami
   Lehtonen, and Leonard Giuliano.

5.  IANA Considerations

   This memo includes no request to IANA.

   [[Note to the RFC-Editor: this section should be removed prior to
   publication.]]

6.  Security Considerations

   As section Section 3.4 describes, the organizations will not want to
   expose all their sessions, or even knowledge that the organization is
   using a particular application, to the outside.  The confidentiality
   needs must be considered.

7.  References

7.1  Normative References

   [I-D.ietf-mboned-addrarch]
              Savola, P., "Overview of the Internet Multicast Addressing
              Architecture",
              Internet-Draft draft-ietf-mboned-addrarch-01, February
              2005.

7.2  Informative References

   [I-D.lehtonen-mboned-dynssm-req]
              Lehtonen, R., "Requirements for discovery of dynamic SSM
              sources",
              Internet-Draft draft-lehtonen-mboned-dynssm-req-00,
              February 2005.

   [RFC2730]  Hanna, S., Patel, B. and M. Shah, "Multicast Address
              Dynamic Client Allocation Protocol (MADCAP)", RFC 2730,
              December 1999.





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Author's Address

   Pekka Savola
   CSC/FUNET
   Espoo
   Finland

   Email: psavola@funet.fi






















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